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Trial in Perugia, Italy / Re: trial in Italy
« Last post by Johan555 on December 06, 2009, 08:13:08 am »
Rudy Says “If I’d Been A Man, Meredith Would Be Alive” – No Response From Sollecito
Sollecito invokes right to remain silent during questioning in prison. Guede landed at Fiumicino from Frankfurt just before 1 pm
Rudy Guede


PERUGIA – “If I’d been a man, I could have saved her”, writes Rudy Guede in one of his many letters to his lawyers and his father. Guede has now returned to Italy from Germany, where he was arrested for the Meredith Kercher murder. “When I shut my eyes, all I can see is red”, he adds. “I’d never seen so much blood. All that blood on her pretty face”.
 
Rudy Guede will be interviewed at Capanne prison on Friday morning by the investigating magistrate, Claudia Matteini, who also signed warrants for the arrest of the other three suspects, Amanda Knox, Raffaele Sollecito and Patrick Lumumba Diya, who was later released. The public prosecutor, Giuliano Mignini, and investigators from the flying squad and special operational centre (SCO), will also be present. Guede, from the Ivory Coast, arrived at Perugia prison on Thursday afternoon from Fiumicino airport, where his flight from Frankfurt had landed. He was immediately placed in solitary confinement awaiting questioning. Wearing jeans and a light blue pullover, he looked thinner than in the photographs circulated three weeks ago, appearing tired and with a glazed look in his eyes. Lawyers who visited him in prison thought he looked calm.
 
Rudy will waive his right to remain silent when he is questioned by the investigating magistrate. “I have only one truth and that is what I will tell”, he said again yesterday. In effect, he has much to explain. In his interview with German magistrates, which cannot be used at the trial, there are many obscure points. First and foremost, he will have to supply convincing proof that he is not the murderer, since of the three suspects currently being held, he is the one in the trickiest situation, having abandoned the dying Meredith without calling for help. “I was in the house”, he admitted to magistrates, “but I had nothing to do with her death”.
 
Guede denies having had sex with or raping Meredith but will have to explain why scientific evidence indicates the precise opposite. He will also have to explain all the inconsistencies in the story of his meeting with the murderer. In particular, he claimed first that he saw the murderer only from behind, and could not identify him, but then he said that defended himself against someone who attempted to strike him with a knife held in the left hand. And who must therefore have been facing him. The other unclear point is that Guede says he came out of the bathroom when he heard Meredith screaming and saw, at the same time, the murderer at the front door and Meredith lying on the floor. If Meredith was in her bedroom, as Guede himself confirmed shortly afterwards, it would not have been possible for him to see both. Finally, Guede will have to explain the two letters – “af” – which Meredith pronounced before she died and which he says he wrote on the wall. Forensic investigators have been unable to find any trace of them.
 
Meanwhile, Raffaele Sollecito invoked his right to remain silent during questioning yesterday morning at Perugia's Capanne prison. He “believes he has already exhaustively clarified the most delicate aspects during the review process”, explained Marco Bruso, one of his lawyers. “He did not know Guede at all”, added Raffaele Sollecito’s lawyers, who say they have supplied technical evidence on the shoeprint to rule out that it could have been left by him. The lawyers said that they would be applying for a further taking of evidence on this point. As they wait for the appeal to the Court of Cassation against the ruling by the review court not to authorise the suspects’ release, lawyers repeated their belief that the murder weapon was not a knife belonging to Raffaele Sollecito, and that it must have been thrown down the steep slope near the murder house.
 


English translation by Giles Watson
www.watson.it

http://www.corriere.it/english/articoli/2007/12_Dicembre/07/rudy.shtml
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Trial in Perugia, Italy / Re: trial in Italy
« Last post by Johan555 on December 06, 2009, 07:59:39 am »
Perugia Murder – Amanda’s Version
She was with Patrick yesterday and she was screaming. I was scared and covered my ears”
PERUGIA – “Patrick and Meredith were in Meredith’s bedroom while I must have stayed in the kitchen. I can’t remember how long they were together in the bedroom but the only thing I can say is that at a certain point I heard Meredith screaming. I was scared and put my hands over my ears. I can’t remember anything else. I’m so confused. I can’t remember if Meredith was screaming or if I heard any thuds because I was in shock but I could imagine what was going on”.
 
It was early yesterday morning when Amanda Knox, Meredith’s American friend and flatmate, revealed that she had been present at the murder. She broke down after police officers accused her of lying when she claimed to have left the flat at 5 pm on 1 November and come back the following morning, when Meredith’s brutally murdered body was found. Amanda’s boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, had been interviewed a few hours earlier. He admitted that the alibi was false while denying he had taken part in the crime. Amanda realised she had no way out but she claimed her role was marginal, accusing Patrick Lumumba Diya of being the murderer. Nevertheless, her story was confused and it was clear she was not telling the whole truth. It was enough for the public prosecutor, however, who signed warrants for the arrest of the two men.
 
“I CAN’T REMEMBER” – Amanda Knox’s story begins at 5.45 am yesterday morning. “I want to tell you what happened because it’s left me really shocked and I’m terrified of Patrick, the African boy who owns the Le Chic pub where I work sometimes. I saw him on the evening of 1 November after I replied ‘see you’ to his text message. We met at about 9 pm on the basketball court in Piazza Grimana and went to my place. I can’t remember if Meredith was already there or if she turned up later. What I can say is that they went into the bedroom”. Amanda goes into detail and describes the assault. Then she adds, “I met Patrick this morning [5 November – Ed.] outside the University for Foreigners and he asked me questions. He wanted to know what questions the police had asked me. I think he also asked me if I wanted to speak to journalists, perhaps because he was trying to find out if I knew anything about Meredith’s death”.
 
Amanda then talks about her boyfriend: “I’m not sure if Raffaele was there that evening but I clearly remember waking up at his place, in his bed. I went back home in the morning and found the door open”. Officers from the flying squad and special operational centre (SCO) say that after making her statement, Amanda put her hands on her head and shook it several times. In the warrant, the public prosecutor writes: “The sexual intercourse involving Meredith and Patrick must be regarded as violent, given the particularly threatening context in which it took place, and to which Ms Knox must have contributed with Diya”.
 
BOYFRIEND’S LIES – The printouts of telephone calls examined by the post office police proved crucial to establishing the movements of those involved. They were also incompatible with earlier statements. The first to admit to talking “a whole lot of rubbish” was Raffaele Sollecito. He was questioned at the police station at 10.40 pm on 5 November, two days ago. He had already been interviewed after Meredith’s body was discovered but claimed he did not know what had happened. “I was out with Amanda”, he had said. Then he realised that the situation had changed and decided to change his version of events.
 
Raffaele Sollecito’s statement begins at 10.40 pm on Tuesday. “I’ve known Amanda for a fortnight. She’s been sleeping at my flat since the evening we met. On 1 November, I woke up at about 11 am. I had breakfast with Amanda and then she left. I went back to bed. I got to her place at 1 or 2 pm. Meredith was there but she left in a hurry about 4 pm without saying where she was going. Amanda and I went into town at 6 pm or so but I can’t remember what we did. We were in the town centre until 8.30 or 9 pm. At 9 pm, I went home on my own while Amanda said she was going to Le Chic because she wanted to see some friends. That’s when we said goodbye. I went home, smoked a joint and had dinner but I can’t remember what I ate. At about 11 pm, my dad called on the landline. I remember that Amanda hadn’t come back yet. I surfed the net for another two hours after dad called and only stopped when Amanda got back, at about 1 am, I suppose. I can’t remember what she was wearing or if she was wearing the same clothes she had on when she said goodbye before dinner. I can’t remember if we had sex that night. The following morning, we got up at about 10 am and she told me she wanted to go home, have a shower and change. She left at around 10.30 and I went back to sleep. When Amanda left, she took an empty carrier bag, saying she needed it for her dirty washing. She came back about 11.30 and I remember she had changed her clothes. She had her usual bag with her”.
 
According to Sollecito, this was when Amanda told him she was worried. “She told me that when she got home, she found the door wide open and blood stains in the small bathroom. She asked me whether I thought it was strange. I said I did and advised her to phone her friends. She told me she’d phoned Filomena [another woman living in the murder house – Ed.] and that Meredith wasn’t answering”.
 
GOING HOME – The pair went back to the flat together. This is Raffaele Sollecito’s version of next few moments: “She unlocked the door and I went in. I noticed that Filomena’s door was open. There was glass on the floor and the room was a mess. Amanda’s door was open but the room was tidy. Then I went to Meredith’s door and saw it was locked. First, I checked to see if what Amanda had told me about the blood in the bathroom was true. I noticed there were drops of blood in the sink and there was something strange on the bathmat, a mixture of blood and water, while the rest of the bathroom was clean. Nothing else was out of place. Just then, Amanda went into the big bathroom and came out looking scared. She clung to me and said that when she was showering earlier, there had been stools in the lavatory bowl but now it was clean. I wondered what was going on and went out to see if I could climb up to Meredith’s window. I tried to force the door but I couldn’t open it. Then I decided to call my sister for advice because she’s a lieutenant in the carabinieri. She told me to call 112 but by this time the postal police had arrived. In my earlier statement, I told you a whole lot of rubbish because Amanda convinced me about her version and I didn’t think about the contradictions”.
 
 
Fiorenza Sarzanini

http://www.corriere.it/english/articoli/2007/11_Novembre/07/perudia_murder.shtml
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Trial in Perugia, Italy / Re: trial in Italy
« Last post by Johan555 on December 06, 2009, 07:47:35 am »
Raffaele Sollecito story

ITALY MURDER DETAILS EMERGE

Kate Mansey In Perugia, Italy 4/11/2007

EXCLUSIVE MURDERED IN ITALY..MEREDITH, 21 Friend tells how he broke down door

A friend of murdered British student Meredith Kercher told last night how he discovered her body in her blood-spattered bedroom.

Raffaele Sollecito, 23, relived the horror of finding the body of the pretty brunette who died when her killer broke into her home and cut her throat as she lay in her bed.

"It is something I never hope to see again," he said. "There was blood everywhere and I couldn't take it all in.

"My girlfriend was her flatmate and she was crying and screaming, 'How could anyone do this?'"

Meredith, 21, who had been studying in Perugia, Italy since August, was murdered the day after a Halloween fancy dress party at the city's British-themed Merlin Pub on Wednesday.

On Thursday she posted happy snaps of herself in fancy dress on the internet and in the evening had returned home alone after watching a film at a friend's house.

But her flatmates - two Italian girls and one American - had all stayed out for the night, so the gruesome discovery wasn't made until the next day.

Raffaele had spent the night at his own house on the other side of the city with his girlfriend, Meredith's American flatmate Amanda Knox, 22.

He said: "It was a normal night. Meredith had gone out with one of her English friends and Amanda and I went to party with one of my friends.

"The next day, around lunchtime, Amanda went back to their apartment to have a shower."

As Amanda, from Washington DC, stepped into house she could tell there was something terribly wrong.

Raffaele said: "When she arrived the front door was wide open. She thought it was weird, but thought maybe someone was in the house and had left it ajar.

"But when she went into the bathroom she saw spots of blood all over the bath and sink. That's when she started getting really afraid and ran back to my place because she didn't want to go into the house alone. So I agreed to go back with her. When we walked in together, I knew straight away it was wrong. It was really eerily silent and the bathroom was speckled with blood like someone had flicked it around, just little spots.

"We went into the bedroom of Philomena (another flatmate who was away) and it had been ransacked, like someone had been looking for something. But when we tried Meredith's room, the door was locked. She never normally locked her bedroom door and that really made us frightened."

Their panic grew as they desperately banged on her door.

Raffaele said: "I tried to knock it down. I thought maybe she was ill... I made a dent, but I wasn't strong enough on my own so I called the police."

When police arrived they knocked the door down straightaway and Raffaele followed them into the room.

"I couldn't believe what I was seeing," he said. "It was hard to tell it was Meredith at first but Amanda started crying and screaming. I dragged her away because I didn't want her to see it, it was so horrible.

"It seems her killer came through the window because it was smashed and there was glass all over the place. It was so sinister because other parts of the house were just as normal."

Raffaele, a computer science student, said Meredith had recently started seeing an Italian neighbour called Giacamo who lived in the apartment beneath the girls. He said: "Meredith was always smiling and happy. She was really popular and it's horrible that someone would want to hurt her."

Police hunting for the killer found two mobile phones in nearby Parco Saint Angelo, a favourite hang out for heroin addicts.

One phone belonged to Meredith, the other is thought to belong to her flatmate, Philomena.

Yesterday, as police distributed posters around the town appealing for witnesses, Meredith's flatmate Amanda Knox revisited the scene with detectives after a full day of questioning.

Investigators say the killer most probably broke in through a window, locked Meredith's door after killing her and then escaped in a hurry, leaving the front door open and throwing the mobile phones into woodland as he fled. Last night, in a significant development, detectives said they believed Meredith had sex on the night she was murdered - but it was not clear whether it was consensual or forced.

Earlier senior detective Marco Chiacchiera said it wasn't clear if there was a sexual motive to her killing.

"Her T-shirt was pulled up over her breasts and she was naked but apart from the cut to her neck, there were no scratches or other wounds on her body," he said.

He added: "The cut to her neck appears to have been made by a heavy weapon. It was a clean cut and it looks as if it was made by something pointed rather than a sharp blade."

Meredith, from Coulsdon, Surrey, had been studying Italian on an exchange year from Leeds University.

Her family in England spent yesterday comforting each other behind closed doors at the family home. Meredith's father John, who is believed to be separated from her mother Arlene, arrived at the house on Friday night. Her older brother Lyle, 28, and sister Stephanie, 24, live with their mother.

They were joined on Friday by their married brother John, 31, who lives in North London.

Soon after learning of the tragedy, her father John, 64, said: "In my heart I just can't believe it's her.

"When I heard, I rang her phone immediately and it was turned off. I must have called it 20 times in 30 minutes. I just couldn't believe it".

Meredith's university friends in Perugia yesterday spoke of their distress at her killing. Polish student Tom Bednerek, 22, said: "It's really hard to understand why or how this could happen.

"I know a lot of people who were at the party that night and it seemed they all had a good time.

"I had heard that there was a lover's note left lying next to her on the bed, but I didn't normally see her with a boyfriend.

"She just seemed to like going out with her friends and socialising with big groups of people.

"She had a lot of friends of all nationalities. We all just feel so sad for her family."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sunday-mirror/2007/11/04/italy-murder-details-emerge-98487-20058122/
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Trial in Perugia, Italy / Re: trial in Italy
« Last post by Johan555 on December 06, 2009, 07:09:58 am »
Transcript of Amanda Knox's handwritten statement to police on the evening of November 6, the day she was arrested:

This is very strange, I know, but really what happened is as confusing to me as it is to everyone else. I have been told there is hard evidence saying that I was at the place of the murder of my friend when it happened. This, I want to confirm, is something that to me, if asked a few days ago, would be impossible.

I know that Raffaele has placed evidence against me, saying that I was not with him on the night of Meredith's murder, but let me tell you this. In my mind there are things I remember and things that are confused. My account of this story goes as follows, despite the evidence stacked against me:

On Thursday November 1 I saw Meredith the last time at my house when she left around 3 or 4 in the afternoon. Raffaele was with me at the time. We, Raffaele and I, stayed at my house for a little while longer and around 5 in the evening we left to watch the movie Amelie at his house. After the movie I received a message from Patrik [sic], for whom I work at the pub "Le Chic". He told me in this message that it wasn't necessary for me to come into work for the evening because there was no one at my work.

Now I remember to have also replied with the message: "See you later. Have a good evening!" and this for me does not mean that I wanted to meet him immediately. In particular because I said: "Good evening!" What happened after I know does not match up with what Raffaele was saying, but this is what I remember. I told Raffaele that I didn't have to work and that I could remain at home for the evening. After that I believe we relaxed in his room together, perhaps I checked my email. Perhaps I read or studied or perhaps I made love to Raffaele. In fact, I think I did make love with him.

However, I admit that this period of time is rather strange because I am not quite sure. I smoked marijuana with him and I might even have fallen asleep. These things I am not sure about and I know they are important to the case and to help myself, but in reality, I don't think I did much. One thing I do remember is that I took a shower with Raffaele and this might explain how we passed the time. In truth, I do not remember exactly what day it was, but I do remember that we had a shower and we washed ourselves for a long time. He cleaned my ears, he dried and combed my hair.

One of the things I am sure that definitely happened the night on which Meredith was murdered was that Raffaele and I ate fairly late, I think around 11 in the evening, although I can't be sure because I didn't look at the clock. After dinner I noticed there was blood on Raffaele's hand, but I was under the impression that it was blood from the fish. After we ate Raffaele washed the dishes but the pipes under his sink broke and water flooded the floor. But because he didn't have a mop I said we could clean it up tomorrow because we (Meredith, Laura, Filomena and I) have a mop at home. I remember it was quite late because we were both very tired (though I can't say the time).

The next thing I remember was waking up the morning of Friday November 2nd around 10am and I took a plastic bag to take back my dirty cloths to go back to my house. It was then that I arrived home alone that I found the door to my house was wide open and this all began. In regards to this "confession" that I made last night, I want to make clear that I'm very doubtful of the verity of my statements because they were made under the pressures of stress, shock and extreme exhaustion. Not only was I told I would be arrested and put in jail for 30 years, but I was also hit in the head when I didn't remember a fact correctly. I understand that the police are under a lot of stress, so I understand the treatment I received.

However, it was under this pressure and after many hours of confusion that my mind came up with these answers. In my mind I saw Patrik in flashes of blurred images. I saw him near the basketball court. I saw him at my front door. I saw myself cowering in the kitchen with my hands over my ears because in my head I could hear Meredith screaming. But I've said this many times so as to make myself clear: these things seem unreal to me, like a dream, and I am unsure if they are real things that happened or are just dreams my head has made to try to answer the questions in my head and the questions I am being asked.

But the truth is, I am unsure about the truth and here's why:

1. The police have told me that they have hard evidence that places me at the house, my house, at the time of Meredith's murder. I don't know what proof they are talking about, but if this is true, it means I am very confused and my dreams must be real.

2. My boyfriend has claimed that I have said things that I know are not true. I KNOW I told him I didn't have to work that night. I remember that moment very clearly. I also NEVER asked him to lie for me. This is absolutely a lie. What I don't understand is why Raffaele, who has always been so caring and gentle with me, would lie about this. What does he have to hide? I don't think he killed Meredith, but I do think he is scared, like me. He walked into a situation that he has never had to be in, and perhaps he is trying to find a way out by disassociating himself with me.

Honestly, I understand because this is a very scary situation. I also know that the police don't believe things of me that I know I can explain, such as:

1. I know the police are confused as to why it took me so long to call someone after I found the door to my house open and blood in the bathroom. The truth is, I wasn't sure what to think, but I definitely didn't think the worst, that someone was murdered. I thought a lot of things, mainly that perhaps someone got hurt and left quickly to take care of it. I also thought that maybe one of my roommates was having menstral [sic] problems and hadn't cleaned up. Perhaps I was in shock, but at the time I didn't know what to think and that's the truth. That is why I talked to Raffaele about it in the morning, because I was worried and wanted advice.

2. I also know that the fact that I can't fully recall the events that I claim took place at Raffaele's home during the time that Meredith was murdered is incriminating. And I stand by my statements that I made last night about events that could have taken place in my home with Patrik, but I want to make very clear that these events seem more unreal to me that what I said before, that I stayed at Raffaele's house.

3. I'm very confused at this time. My head is full of contrasting ideas and I know I can be frustrating to work with for this reason. But I also want to tell the truth as best I can. Everything I have said in regards to my involvement in Meredith's death, even though it is contrasting, are the best truth that I have been able to think.

[illegible section]

I'm trying, I really am, because I'm scared for myself. I know I didn't kill Meredith. That's all I know for sure. In these flashbacks that I'm having, I see Patrik as the murderer, but the way the truth feels in my mind, there is no way for me to have known because I don't remember FOR SURE if I was at my house that night. The questions that need answering, at least for how I'm thinking are:

1. Why did Raffaele lie? (or for you) Did Raffaele lie?
2. Why did I think of Patrik?
3. Is the evidence proving my pressance [sic] at the time and place of the crime reliable? If so, what does this say about my memory? Is it reliable?
4. Is there any other evidence condemning Patrik or any other person?
3. Who is the REAL murder [sic]? This is particularly important because I don't feel I can be used as condemning testimone [sic] in this instance.

I have a clearer mind that I've had before, but I'm still missing parts, which I know is bad for me. But this is the truth and this is what I'm thinking at this time. Please don't yell at me because it only makes me more confused, which doesn't help anyone. I understand how serious this situation is, and as such, I want to give you this information as soon and as clearly as possible.

If there are still parts that don't make sense, please ask me. I'm doing the best I can, just like you are. Please believe me at least in that, although I understand if you don't. All I know is that I didn't kill Meredith, and so I have nothing but lies to be afraid of.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1570225/Transcript-of-Amanda-Knoxs-note.html
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Trial in Perugia, Italy / Re: trial in Italy
« Last post by Johan555 on December 06, 2009, 04:29:53 am »
How To Clean a Bloody Knife
Does DNA come off with soap and water?
By Juliet Lapidos
Posted Tuesday, Nov. 20, 2007, at 4:01 PM ET



Amanda Knox

Investigators in Perugia, Italy, have found new evidence linking a 20-year-old American exchange student, Amanda Knox, to the brutal stabbing death of her roommate, British student Meredith Kercher. According to the latest reports, Knox and her Italian boyfriend, Raphael Sollecito, cleaned the alleged murder weapon—an 8-inch black-handled kitchen knife—with bleach. Nevertheless, police discovered Kercher's DNA on the tip and Knox's DNA by the handle. Is it possible to clean DNA off a knife?

Yes, if you know what you're doing. Knox and Sollecito were on the right track: Bleach contains sodium hypochlorite, an extremely corrosive chemical that can break the hydrogen bonds between DNA base pairs and thus degrade or "denature" a DNA sample. In fact, bleach is so effective that crime labs use a 10 percent solution (one part commercial bleach to nine parts water) to clean workspaces (PDF) so that old samples don't contaminate fresh evidence. Likewise, when examining ancient skeletal remains (PDF)http://www.anthro.ucdavis.edu/card/pubs/kemp&smith2005.pdf, researchers first douse the remains in diluted bleach to eliminate modern DNA from the surface of bones or teeth.

So, why did Knox and Sollecito's bleaching gambit fail? It's difficult to swab a knife thoroughly. Dried blood can stick to the nooks and crannies in a wood handle, to the serrated edge of a blade, or become lodged in the slit between the blade and the hilt. With help from a Q-tip, it's possible to eliminate most stains, but what's not visible to the naked eye might still be visible to a microscope, and sophisticated crime labs need only about 10 cells to build a DNA profile.

Bleach is perhaps the most effective DNA-remover (though evidently no methodology is failsafe), but it's not the only option. Deoxyribonuclease enzymes, available at biological supply houses, and certain harsh chemicals, like hydrochloric acid, also degrade DNA strands. It's even possible to wipe a knife clean of DNA-laden hair follicles, saliva, and white blood cells with generic soap and warm water. The drawback to this last method is that the tell-tale cells don't just disappear once off the knife. They linger on sponges, in drains, and even in sink traps, where wily investigators search for trace evidence.




http://www.slate.com/id/2178383/

Use of bleach to eliminate contaminating DNA from
the surface of bones and teeth
(PDF)
http://www.anthro.ucdavis.edu/card/pubs/kemp&smith2005.pdf
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Trial in Perugia, Italy / Re: trial in Italy
« Last post by Johan555 on December 05, 2009, 01:54:54 pm »
minister for Administrative Simplification  rothf

Italy is busy with clearing the Italian Laws &Code. It is crucial and it is therefore rigorously addressed. Thursday, the Italian Government decided, in fact once as 29,095 unnecessary laws and regulations to remove, reports the Italian news agency ANSA.

Italy has some 120,000 different laws and regulations. No European country has more. They are so many that it is almost impossible to know them and apply. And finding the right law is also a huge task. There are already far outdated. The laws now in one blow from the statute are removed, there are already deployed in 1948.

The comprehensive legislation in Italy gives big problems. So great that it even has a minister for Administrative Simplification: Roberto Calderoli. He was also the initiative for the cleanup.

Besides the cut in the Code, the Government also decided a free online archive laws, so that people can easily look up laws.
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Trial in Perugia, Italy / Re: trial in Italy
« Last post by Johan555 on December 05, 2009, 01:38:23 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Nr_-xyKJg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Nr_-xyKJg</a>
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Trial in Perugia, Italy / Re: trial in Italy
« Last post by Johan555 on December 05, 2009, 01:35:49 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dpZheBIhQs" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dpZheBIhQs</a>
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Trial in Perugia, Italy / Re: trial in Italy
« Last post by Johan555 on December 05, 2009, 01:34:09 pm »
Johan,

Do you think Knox and her boyfriend were really involved in this girl's murder?

NO
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Trial in Perugia, Italy / Re: trial in Italy
« Last post by truthseeker2 on December 05, 2009, 12:34:58 pm »
Johan,

Do you think Knox and her boyfriend were really involved in this girl's murder?
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